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		<title>By: Mr PC</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/sue/2007/02/27/hemel-hempstead/comment-page-2/#comment-510</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was brought up in Dunstable in the 70&#039;s but for some reason we always drove to Hemel if we were taking the train to London. I think my Dad didn&#039;t like Luton BR cos the carpark was 5p more expensive. We also used to come to Hemel shopping when I was a child. I remember coming here when I was about 3 on my birthday and being bought a big red pedal car that I virtually lived in for the next few years. Sometimes on the way home we&#039;d stop at the paddling pool at the end of Gadebride park or have a walk around the river by the bridge further up. I remember in the late 70&#039;s all the trees up by the bridge being chopped down cos of Dutch Elm disease. I also remember the revolving bobble thing on the top of the carpark but until I came here to work in the 90&#039;s I had always thought it was on top of the Kodak building. 

After the 70&#039;s I rarely visited Hemel until the early 90&#039;s when I saw a few bands at the Pavillion (Neds Atomic Dustbin stands out). When I visited again in 95 I was really surprised to see the town centre had been virtually pedestrianized but I think it was an improvement. I was also struck by the massive wasteland where the Shell building had been in my childhood.

In 1998 I came to Hemel to work as a Police Officer and have been stationed here ever since. I am very happy here and overall it is a good town. I&#039;ve read the few comments knocking Hemel but as an insider I feel qualified to say that like most towns 95% of the problems are caused by 5% of the population, and compared to Dunstable (which in the 70&#039;s was a fairly affluent market town but is now in terminal decline) where I was brought up Hemel is still very desirable. In fact when I walk through the town now I am struck by just how much regeneration and improvement has gone on since I arrived in 1998. Back in the 70&#039;s the town was a nice clean place that still retained a lot of the orignal new twon idealism but by 98 it had become a bit run down. In the last few years its really started changing again and hopefully Hemels 2nd golden time is coming (assuming all the funding doesn&#039;t totally dry up).

Great to read all the posts here. I hope my little contribution is interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was brought up in Dunstable in the 70&#8242;s but for some reason we always drove to Hemel if we were taking the train to London. I think my Dad didn&#8217;t like Luton BR cos the carpark was 5p more expensive. We also used to come to Hemel shopping when I was a child. I remember coming here when I was about 3 on my birthday and being bought a big red pedal car that I virtually lived in for the next few years. Sometimes on the way home we&#8217;d stop at the paddling pool at the end of Gadebride park or have a walk around the river by the bridge further up. I remember in the late 70&#8242;s all the trees up by the bridge being chopped down cos of Dutch Elm disease. I also remember the revolving bobble thing on the top of the carpark but until I came here to work in the 90&#8242;s I had always thought it was on top of the Kodak building. </p>
<p>After the 70&#8242;s I rarely visited Hemel until the early 90&#8242;s when I saw a few bands at the Pavillion (Neds Atomic Dustbin stands out). When I visited again in 95 I was really surprised to see the town centre had been virtually pedestrianized but I think it was an improvement. I was also struck by the massive wasteland where the Shell building had been in my childhood.</p>
<p>In 1998 I came to Hemel to work as a Police Officer and have been stationed here ever since. I am very happy here and overall it is a good town. I&#8217;ve read the few comments knocking Hemel but as an insider I feel qualified to say that like most towns 95% of the problems are caused by 5% of the population, and compared to Dunstable (which in the 70&#8242;s was a fairly affluent market town but is now in terminal decline) where I was brought up Hemel is still very desirable. In fact when I walk through the town now I am struck by just how much regeneration and improvement has gone on since I arrived in 1998. Back in the 70&#8242;s the town was a nice clean place that still retained a lot of the orignal new twon idealism but by 98 it had become a bit run down. In the last few years its really started changing again and hopefully Hemels 2nd golden time is coming (assuming all the funding doesn&#8217;t totally dry up).</p>
<p>Great to read all the posts here. I hope my little contribution is interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred T</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was Googling the toyshop Taylor &amp; McKenna following a conversation with the wife about favourite shops when we were kids, when I came across your site.
 I lived in Leighton Buzzard as a child from 1966 to 1984 (I now live in Devon) and my parents used to take me shopping to Hemel quite regularly. 
The photograph of the little girl fishing with the net stopped me in my tracks. After shopping, as a treat, my late father would take me to fish for tiddlers in the very spot shown in the picture. The photo brought back so many memories I actually found myself choking up. Thank you so very much for this site. You have made a middle aged man very sentimental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was Googling the toyshop Taylor &amp; McKenna following a conversation with the wife about favourite shops when we were kids, when I came across your site.<br />
 I lived in Leighton Buzzard as a child from 1966 to 1984 (I now live in Devon) and my parents used to take me shopping to Hemel quite regularly.<br />
The photograph of the little girl fishing with the net stopped me in my tracks. After shopping, as a treat, my late father would take me to fish for tiddlers in the very spot shown in the picture. The photo brought back so many memories I actually found myself choking up. Thank you so very much for this site. You have made a middle aged man very sentimental.</p>
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		<title>By: Grubby</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/sue/2007/02/27/hemel-hempstead/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,All!! Alan youvè just jogged some more memories Heathpark discòs weren`t they for the over thirty`s iff i remember right we used to call them snatch a grannie night??Many a fun grope behind the cricket pavilion across the road ha ha!! As i was around about the same time you was doing the round`s in Hemel you never know we might have met sometime as i frequented most places and me and a few other`s were bit of jack the lad`s like we all were them day`s.When i was a nipper i went to two waters junior school,anyone remember the fishing tackle shop that used to be next door in the back room was a snooker room.I remember with some others going in there and when the owner was at the back nicking a Wagon Wheel they were my favourite chocolate them days. On sundays my mother used to brylcream my hair and send me off to sunday school at the Salem botom of featherbed lane anyone remember??The priest on days of baptism opened a hatch and walked down some steps to the baptism pool used to scare the sh-t out of me watching him go down them steps!! the memories are all flooding back keep up the post`s Guy`s and Gal`s all the best!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,All!! Alan youvè just jogged some more memories Heathpark discòs weren`t they for the over thirty`s iff i remember right we used to call them snatch a grannie night??Many a fun grope behind the cricket pavilion across the road ha ha!! As i was around about the same time you was doing the round`s in Hemel you never know we might have met sometime as i frequented most places and me and a few other`s were bit of jack the lad`s like we all were them day`s.When i was a nipper i went to two waters junior school,anyone remember the fishing tackle shop that used to be next door in the back room was a snooker room.I remember with some others going in there and when the owner was at the back nicking a Wagon Wheel they were my favourite chocolate them days. On sundays my mother used to brylcream my hair and send me off to sunday school at the Salem botom of featherbed lane anyone remember??The priest on days of baptism opened a hatch and walked down some steps to the baptism pool used to scare the sh-t out of me watching him go down them steps!! the memories are all flooding back keep up the post`s Guy`s and Gal`s all the best!!</p>
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		<title>By: Flibbertigibbet » Blog Archive » Pathe newsreels of Hemel Hempstead in the 1960’s</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] memories of Hemel in response to a post I wrote 3 years ago. I have looked at these films before but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/sue/2007/02/27/hemel-hempstead/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post started by someone with such a good memory.

I courted a girl from Hemel (Boxmoor) in the 70&#039;s and was a frequent visitor to the town centre of a Saturday afternoon and evening. Although living near St Albans at the time, my father had been working on the Maylands Industrial Estate for a number of years, so I have some very fond memories of the area before the large scale development took hold later on.

Like others, I recall the female fashion store called Snob and the dress stalls on the market, having been obliged to visit them with said girlfriend to provide fashion advise!! Peter Spivey (also in St Albans and Watford as I recall) and Millets were probably more my cup of tea, as were snacks enjoyed in the Wimpy and Golden Egg. I remember going to the night club in the Marlowes, but couldn&#039;t recall the name - Scamps - until I read it in a post above. We would go to the Wagon and Horses for a drink after a date at the Odeon Cinema, and I also recall evenings in the Steamcoach in Boxmoor and discos at the Heathcote Hotel near Kodak, though I may have that name wrong.

Gadebridge park was a gem and I remember that my girlfriend and I, who both had family dogs, introduced them to each other in the park. Ahh!! My previous memory of the park was during a D of E hike back from Ivinghoe Beacon to school in St Albans a few years before. We stopped by the river and bathed our feet in the water to cool them down. We weren&#039;t even supposed to be in Hemel as we&#039;d already completed the required distance walking through Beds and Bucks to the Beacon, but we&#039;d spent our bus fares in a pub in Pitstone and had no option but to hoof it home. Whist walking through Gadbridge, one of my classmates found a 50 pence coin and we bought a reviving Swiss roll in a shop near the Pavillion.

Oh happy times and didn&#039;t the sun always shine?

And the girlfriend? Well I thought she might be a keeper, married her and we now have two fantastic daughters and an adorable grandaughter. Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post started by someone with such a good memory.</p>
<p>I courted a girl from Hemel (Boxmoor) in the 70&#8242;s and was a frequent visitor to the town centre of a Saturday afternoon and evening. Although living near St Albans at the time, my father had been working on the Maylands Industrial Estate for a number of years, so I have some very fond memories of the area before the large scale development took hold later on.</p>
<p>Like others, I recall the female fashion store called Snob and the dress stalls on the market, having been obliged to visit them with said girlfriend to provide fashion advise!! Peter Spivey (also in St Albans and Watford as I recall) and Millets were probably more my cup of tea, as were snacks enjoyed in the Wimpy and Golden Egg. I remember going to the night club in the Marlowes, but couldn&#8217;t recall the name &#8211; Scamps &#8211; until I read it in a post above. We would go to the Wagon and Horses for a drink after a date at the Odeon Cinema, and I also recall evenings in the Steamcoach in Boxmoor and discos at the Heathcote Hotel near Kodak, though I may have that name wrong.</p>
<p>Gadebridge park was a gem and I remember that my girlfriend and I, who both had family dogs, introduced them to each other in the park. Ahh!! My previous memory of the park was during a D of E hike back from Ivinghoe Beacon to school in St Albans a few years before. We stopped by the river and bathed our feet in the water to cool them down. We weren&#8217;t even supposed to be in Hemel as we&#8217;d already completed the required distance walking through Beds and Bucks to the Beacon, but we&#8217;d spent our bus fares in a pub in Pitstone and had no option but to hoof it home. Whist walking through Gadbridge, one of my classmates found a 50 pence coin and we bought a reviving Swiss roll in a shop near the Pavillion.</p>
<p>Oh happy times and didn&#8217;t the sun always shine?</p>
<p>And the girlfriend? Well I thought she might be a keeper, married her and we now have two fantastic daughters and an adorable grandaughter. Alan</p>
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		<title>By: lou lou</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great days 1959 growing up in Hemel &amp; the trudge up hill to the gr8 school on the hill Southill I recall. Sisters went to corner hall...hell smile for me :-o I&#039;m 58 now.... &amp; still have all my marvels!!!! lol.
Anybody remember Irene &amp;  Noreen Thorn (twins) Give us a shout if your out there or if anybody remembers them both!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great days 1959 growing up in Hemel &amp; the trudge up hill to the gr8 school on the hill Southill I recall. Sisters went to corner hall&#8230;hell smile for me <img src='http://cyberelk.net/sue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m 58 now&#8230;. &amp; still have all my marvels!!!! lol.<br />
Anybody remember Irene &amp;  Noreen Thorn (twins) Give us a shout if your out there or if anybody remembers them both!!</p>
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		<title>By: Grubby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a born and bred Hemelite 1955 for my sins i have deemed myself a fate of new pleasure! After leaving to search fame and fortune in 1979 and never really found it! I have decided to return to my roots I know there have been many changes and closing down of all the good haunt`s like The Harry,The Railway,Queens head disco nights good for pulling! Scamps plus all the other good old watering holes.Shame the Pav has gone I remember watching Mick Mcmanus and Big Daddy discussing their moves over a pre match pint and watching them wink to Dickie Davies to warn the camera man of wich move was coming (ha ha) and the old ladys thought it was real!!So As from 1st march i shall be around iff anybody remembers me write here and maybe we could go on that trip down memory lane! By the way mines a lager tops!! Dont want to mention names here but Cornerhall school 66-70 think our last class was 4b great bunch of guy`s bet there`s still a few around in Hemel? get your drinking heads on guy`s!! All the best Grubby .G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a born and bred Hemelite 1955 for my sins i have deemed myself a fate of new pleasure! After leaving to search fame and fortune in 1979 and never really found it! I have decided to return to my roots I know there have been many changes and closing down of all the good haunt`s like The Harry,The Railway,Queens head disco nights good for pulling! Scamps plus all the other good old watering holes.Shame the Pav has gone I remember watching Mick Mcmanus and Big Daddy discussing their moves over a pre match pint and watching them wink to Dickie Davies to warn the camera man of wich move was coming (ha ha) and the old ladys thought it was real!!So As from 1st march i shall be around iff anybody remembers me write here and maybe we could go on that trip down memory lane! By the way mines a lager tops!! Dont want to mention names here but Cornerhall school 66-70 think our last class was 4b great bunch of guy`s bet there`s still a few around in Hemel? get your drinking heads on guy`s!! All the best Grubby .G</p>
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		<title>By: Allie Driscoll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie Driscoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!! I&#039;d forgotten about the ramp with its mosaic and the pond. I got the bus from the train station to my Mum&#039;s in Levvy Green a few months ago, and it went past Peter Spivey&#039;s; amazed to see it still there. I remember Presents by the market too, and clothes shops called Profile, and Gemini. But does anyone remember The Golden Egg? It was a cafe on the same side as Smith&#039;s. And what about The China Garden, the restaurant with the &#039;real&#039; tree growing inside? And I used to get my hair cut in Bumblebounce at the end of Marlowes. Crikey, it&#039;s all coming back to me now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant!! I&#8217;d forgotten about the ramp with its mosaic and the pond. I got the bus from the train station to my Mum&#8217;s in Levvy Green a few months ago, and it went past Peter Spivey&#8217;s; amazed to see it still there. I remember Presents by the market too, and clothes shops called Profile, and Gemini. But does anyone remember The Golden Egg? It was a cafe on the same side as Smith&#8217;s. And what about The China Garden, the restaurant with the &#8216;real&#8217; tree growing inside? And I used to get my hair cut in Bumblebounce at the end of Marlowes. Crikey, it&#8217;s all coming back to me now!</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born in Hemel in 1954 and live there until 1986.
I remember a lot ofthe palces on this site.Some of my memories are the old high street where us &#039;hippy&#039; types would spend the weekends. Firstly it was the Tavern ( I think) at the end of the High St near the wicker shop. That got closed by the pilice due to the underage drinking and drugs I expect. Then we went to the Crown and Septre where we managed to hang out for a while andthen to the White Hart where Mrs Varny and Gwenith reighned. They allowed all the underagedrinkers in and we would sit with our 50p spending money over half a lager and talk all night. In fact you were lucky to sit and some nights it was a crush to stand with so many around. the smoke was awful!
One night it was so crwoded that i was standing by the bar and my hair caught ligth on a candle placed on the bar. It was always the place to find out where the parties were and as word went round eveyone would turn up and every week it would be the same crowd. Then there was the Pavilion. I worked there on Saturdays either on &#039;handbags&#039; or &#039;coats&#039; it was fun and at over £1 per hour well worth having to catch the Pavilion Express home to Bennett End or risking it with a bouncer to get a lift home ( never had any trouble) I can remember one new years eve on &#039;coat&#039;s when evry one got impatient and a sea of drunks poured over the counter to get thier own coats, fighting ensued and we could not then find anybodies coat as they were all on the floor, I went home and left them to it. I can also recall dancing at Pop at the Pav we had groups and piped music. I saw Yes ,and whoevr sang Everlasting love and even Segoivia came there too. Dacorum college had good gigs there too. Going back further the co op had a cafeteria where people would meet overlooking the water gardens, and the CONa cafe by the cinema was a place to go. Tescos was only Victor Values and the 314 A doulbe decker back to Bennetts end would set yu back 6d. How about Vanity fair a twostory shop at Brdige st and when SNOB arrived a real teenage shop- fantastic. heppy days</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born in Hemel in 1954 and live there until 1986.<br />
I remember a lot ofthe palces on this site.Some of my memories are the old high street where us &#8216;hippy&#8217; types would spend the weekends. Firstly it was the Tavern ( I think) at the end of the High St near the wicker shop. That got closed by the pilice due to the underage drinking and drugs I expect. Then we went to the Crown and Septre where we managed to hang out for a while andthen to the White Hart where Mrs Varny and Gwenith reighned. They allowed all the underagedrinkers in and we would sit with our 50p spending money over half a lager and talk all night. In fact you were lucky to sit and some nights it was a crush to stand with so many around. the smoke was awful!<br />
One night it was so crwoded that i was standing by the bar and my hair caught ligth on a candle placed on the bar. It was always the place to find out where the parties were and as word went round eveyone would turn up and every week it would be the same crowd. Then there was the Pavilion. I worked there on Saturdays either on &#8216;handbags&#8217; or &#8216;coats&#8217; it was fun and at over £1 per hour well worth having to catch the Pavilion Express home to Bennett End or risking it with a bouncer to get a lift home ( never had any trouble) I can remember one new years eve on &#8216;coat&#8217;s when evry one got impatient and a sea of drunks poured over the counter to get thier own coats, fighting ensued and we could not then find anybodies coat as they were all on the floor, I went home and left them to it. I can also recall dancing at Pop at the Pav we had groups and piped music. I saw Yes ,and whoevr sang Everlasting love and even Segoivia came there too. Dacorum college had good gigs there too. Going back further the co op had a cafeteria where people would meet overlooking the water gardens, and the CONa cafe by the cinema was a place to go. Tescos was only Victor Values and the 314 A doulbe decker back to Bennetts end would set yu back 6d. How about Vanity fair a twostory shop at Brdige st and when SNOB arrived a real teenage shop- fantastic. heppy days</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Boone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant Boone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading all your memories of Hemel . I lived in Grove Hill from 1969 -96 and remember going to Taylor &amp; Mckenna as well as Richards toy shop in Adeyfield sq to buy &#039;britains &#039; soldiers with my pocket money. I ended up getting my first job after leaving school working in Hemel card and kit centre in the Marlowes.   Anyone wanting to see any more Hemel photos can look at my Hemel page on virtualtourist.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading all your memories of Hemel . I lived in Grove Hill from 1969 -96 and remember going to Taylor &amp; Mckenna as well as Richards toy shop in Adeyfield sq to buy &#8216;britains &#8216; soldiers with my pocket money. I ended up getting my first job after leaving school working in Hemel card and kit centre in the Marlowes.   Anyone wanting to see any more Hemel photos can look at my Hemel page on virtualtourist.com.</p>
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