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		<title>Comment on Memories of Hemel Hempstead in the 1970&#8242;s by Ray Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to Hemel at the age of 3 months from London in 1953....have so many memories of Hemel in those early days. It was a great place to grow up and I have fond memories of the Town Centre. Does anyone remember Tee Vee Services on the ramp? ..and in the town : Times furnishing, yes the Wimpy Bar, Timothy Whites, Rumbelows, Hiltons (shoe shop) Finlay&#039;s coffee upstairs (managed by old ladies). VisionHire, British Relay Television. Wagon and Horses pub..The delicatessan that was next to Quality House was called &#039;Bird&#039;.
The question I have never had answered by anyone is : Why was the &#039;Pavilion&#039; knocked down. Would love to know....I spent a lot of my school summer holidays at Churchills Swimming Pool. I remember the water gardens being well maintained and looked great (not now Im afraid). I went to Apsley Grammar school and ironically have returned to Apsley having spent 20 years in Berkshire. Its still good to be back !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to Hemel at the age of 3 months from London in 1953&#8230;.have so many memories of Hemel in those early days. It was a great place to grow up and I have fond memories of the Town Centre. Does anyone remember Tee Vee Services on the ramp? ..and in the town : Times furnishing, yes the Wimpy Bar, Timothy Whites, Rumbelows, Hiltons (shoe shop) Finlay&#8217;s coffee upstairs (managed by old ladies). VisionHire, British Relay Television. Wagon and Horses pub..The delicatessan that was next to Quality House was called &#8216;Bird&#8217;.<br />
The question I have never had answered by anyone is : Why was the &#8216;Pavilion&#8217; knocked down. Would love to know&#8230;.I spent a lot of my school summer holidays at Churchills Swimming Pool. I remember the water gardens being well maintained and looked great (not now Im afraid). I went to Apsley Grammar school and ironically have returned to Apsley having spent 20 years in Berkshire. Its still good to be back !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories of Hemel Hempstead in the 1970&#8242;s by Robb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone here u must go 2 FB Hemel Hempstead Remembered, u&#039;ll LOVE IT!!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Library trials by Grace Tierney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace Tierney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar experience in my local library (in Ireland) earlier this summer. Yes, I could manage it (after a few false starts) but I don&#039;t see how it&#039;s going to help less tech-saavy users, those with sight issues, or those that need to juggle bags and perhaps a walking stick. And yes, those readers have every right to use the library too. I usually have two small (button pressing manic) children with me when using the machines and that doesn&#039;t help either. 

Part of the joy of using a library is often the interaction at checkout - commenting on books, suggesting similar authors, and that&#039;s gone now too. 

More recently, I managed (accidentally) to check out 2 books without registering them against a card. Library system thought they were still &quot;on shelf&quot; - I could have kept them!

Progress for progress&#039; sake I think. And yet I still can&#039;t check out ebooks from my library, only digital audio books?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience in my local library (in Ireland) earlier this summer. Yes, I could manage it (after a few false starts) but I don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s going to help less tech-saavy users, those with sight issues, or those that need to juggle bags and perhaps a walking stick. And yes, those readers have every right to use the library too. I usually have two small (button pressing manic) children with me when using the machines and that doesn&#8217;t help either. </p>
<p>Part of the joy of using a library is often the interaction at checkout &#8211; commenting on books, suggesting similar authors, and that&#8217;s gone now too. </p>
<p>More recently, I managed (accidentally) to check out 2 books without registering them against a card. Library system thought they were still &#8220;on shelf&#8221; &#8211; I could have kept them!</p>
<p>Progress for progress&#8217; sake I think. And yet I still can&#8217;t check out ebooks from my library, only digital audio books?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Snickerdoodles by F. C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>F. C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmm! made these yesterday, &#039;twas delicious!!! Soft and nice. glad they did not spread much but kept their mound-like shape. A tip (which I forgot to do myself but only thought of too late!): Shape the dough into little balls and tip them into a sealed bag full of the cinammon sugar. Then shake! Saves time rolling them around individually :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmm! made these yesterday, &#8217;twas delicious!!! Soft and nice. glad they did not spread much but kept their mound-like shape. A tip (which I forgot to do myself but only thought of too late!): Shape the dough into little balls and tip them into a sealed bag full of the cinammon sugar. Then shake! Saves time rolling them around individually <img src='http://cyberelk.net/sue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories of Hemel Hempstead in the 1970&#8242;s by Zenah Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zenah Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Hemel late 70&#039;s as a toddler to 1995 when I got married in St Mary&#039;s. I remember the C0-OP down the end of town with a little ally next to it which had a home funishing shop on the other side. On the other side of the road was WH Smiths loved going in there for books that was until I did work expsirns in the book shop on the raised area near the market. Loved working in there it was a real treasure trove as I love reading. Our price was another shop I loved as could get tapes called &#039;An Hour of ...&#039; for about a £1. There was also a cafe call &#039;Poppins&#039; which had lovely ice creams it was a treat to go there. I also loved going to the Whimpy and throwing pennies into the pond and making a wish. Next to woolworths was the slope up to the foot bridge over the road which would also lead to the toilets and on the other side of the slope was a chemist later changed to Superdrug. I loved Gift Box. Late 80&#039;s the shop next to the whimpy was a clothes shop with an upstiars that lead onto the balcony. 

There was a tready clothes shop over the road from Sainsburys on the cornor. I remember getting a jumper from there and my older sister trying to get me some clothes but had spent to much on her card that day. I was really upset. 

I loved the market and remember the cafe near the bus station that did lovely milk shakes and just outside the stall on a Saturday was a aution bric a brac he would often ask who would give him 50p for a carrer bag that was empty and when you put your hand up he would feel it up I cried when he stop coming as would get my mums presents from there. I can&#039;t really remember going shopping much with my mum I remember that you could walk right through Woolworths. I remember the Red Cross collecting in the gap next to Boots and doing an absail down the side of Boots. 

Over the road in the watergardens near the police station there was a foot bridge over the river with a big grass bank up the side. The river came into a little point and me and my younger sister would jump over seeing how far up the river we could jump without falling it. 

My fav place through was Gadebridge park with the paddling pool with the island in the middle pass that it was deep enough to swim. One summer before they feeled it I jumped of the island and landed on glass cutting my foot open. I also remember the grid climbing frame that was taller than my mum. It was a sad day when they got rid of the park and made it &quot;safe&quot; weres the fun in that. 

I would love some photos of Gadebridge park to show my kids if anyone has any</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Hemel late 70&#8242;s as a toddler to 1995 when I got married in St Mary&#8217;s. I remember the C0-OP down the end of town with a little ally next to it which had a home funishing shop on the other side. On the other side of the road was WH Smiths loved going in there for books that was until I did work expsirns in the book shop on the raised area near the market. Loved working in there it was a real treasure trove as I love reading. Our price was another shop I loved as could get tapes called &#8216;An Hour of &#8230;&#8217; for about a £1. There was also a cafe call &#8216;Poppins&#8217; which had lovely ice creams it was a treat to go there. I also loved going to the Whimpy and throwing pennies into the pond and making a wish. Next to woolworths was the slope up to the foot bridge over the road which would also lead to the toilets and on the other side of the slope was a chemist later changed to Superdrug. I loved Gift Box. Late 80&#8242;s the shop next to the whimpy was a clothes shop with an upstiars that lead onto the balcony. </p>
<p>There was a tready clothes shop over the road from Sainsburys on the cornor. I remember getting a jumper from there and my older sister trying to get me some clothes but had spent to much on her card that day. I was really upset. </p>
<p>I loved the market and remember the cafe near the bus station that did lovely milk shakes and just outside the stall on a Saturday was a aution bric a brac he would often ask who would give him 50p for a carrer bag that was empty and when you put your hand up he would feel it up I cried when he stop coming as would get my mums presents from there. I can&#8217;t really remember going shopping much with my mum I remember that you could walk right through Woolworths. I remember the Red Cross collecting in the gap next to Boots and doing an absail down the side of Boots. </p>
<p>Over the road in the watergardens near the police station there was a foot bridge over the river with a big grass bank up the side. The river came into a little point and me and my younger sister would jump over seeing how far up the river we could jump without falling it. </p>
<p>My fav place through was Gadebridge park with the paddling pool with the island in the middle pass that it was deep enough to swim. One summer before they feeled it I jumped of the island and landed on glass cutting my foot open. I also remember the grid climbing frame that was taller than my mum. It was a sad day when they got rid of the park and made it &#8220;safe&#8221; weres the fun in that. </p>
<p>I would love some photos of Gadebridge park to show my kids if anyone has any</p>
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		<title>Comment on Virgin Media (NTL as was) &#8211; a complete loss of faith by Virgin Broadband!!!!!!!!! - PPRuNe Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgin Broadband!!!!!!!!! - PPRuNe Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  There is also an interesting post on this site     It&#039;s the one by &quot;Lynsey&quot; on March 26th, 2008 at 2:14 pm with the first paragraph that [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Foxtons Estate Agents &#8211; A WARNING by Reece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading your tactics of how you got them back at there own game! I am glad your persistance paid off! Im sure if you would not of taken control and been so firm that they would still be pursuing you to this day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading your tactics of how you got them back at there own game! I am glad your persistance paid off! Im sure if you would not of taken control and been so firm that they would still be pursuing you to this day!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories of Hemel Hempstead in the 1970&#8242;s by Tony Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the Chief Projectionist at the old Luxor cinema and have lived in the town since 1940. Three years ago I produced along with Alan Willmott of Windjammer films, a 55 minute DVD made up from old photographs of Hemel Hempstead (many unpublished) and this shows the town as it was 70 years ago and the same places as they are today. my tel number is 01442 247797
Tony Rogers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the Chief Projectionist at the old Luxor cinema and have lived in the town since 1940. Three years ago I produced along with Alan Willmott of Windjammer films, a 55 minute DVD made up from old photographs of Hemel Hempstead (many unpublished) and this shows the town as it was 70 years ago and the same places as they are today. my tel number is 01442 247797<br />
Tony Rogers</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories of Hemel Hempstead in the 1970&#8242;s by Tracie Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracie Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So glad I stumbled across this site, wonderful memories!  I was brought up in Hemel from 1963-1983, before marrying and moving to Milton Keynes with my job, but my family still live there.

Fond memories of the annual Carnival on August Bank Holiday, waiting along the packed roadside for the procession to pass through and then following it through the gates of Gadebridge Park for all the festivities, including the Red Devils (parachutists) and the fab funfair,where my Dad would treat me to a sneaky cider and then get told off by my Mum because it made me talk endlessly! lol

There was also a lovely open-air public paddling pool, very popular with young &amp; old alike, think it might have closed now (health &amp; safety) and fishing for &#039;tiddlers&#039; in the nearby river.

I saw Showaddywaddy at the Pavilion in the 70&#039;s, also recall the Saturday Morning Pictures, which wasn&#039;t so much about the films really, as getting to go out with the kids from school and flirt with the boys! haha  Evening films you always got 2 in those days... a shorter &#039;rubbishy&#039; film (tho occasionally you&#039;d get a good 1) followed by the main film.

Scamps turned into various different names over the years, I remember trying to get in with my b/f under-age, only to find my brother-in-law was a bouncer on the door! Terrified he would tell my Dad, but he just winked, nodded and got us in for free!  On the way out, however, I&#039;d had a little bit too much to drink, managed to make it down the HUGE flight of stairs to the door, but just as the fresh air hit me, I staggered down the ONE STEP leading outside, &amp; fell flat on my face on the pavement! Heard my b/f whispering thru gritted teeth &quot;Get up, Get up!&quot; and moved my head sideways, to see a pair of big black boots - looking up - belonging to - yep, a policeman.  &quot;Is there a problem?&quot; he asked.  &quot;No officer, of course not&quot; b/f said, &quot;she just tripped over the step&quot;.  Hmmm.  How we got away with it, I&#039;ll never know.

When I was a little girl, Mum used to take me shopping, I remember we always ended up at the Co-Op at one end of Marlowes for a cup of tea, we used to sit by the window overlooking the statue of the couple dancing in Waterhouse Gardens.  They were naked, and I always thought it was very rude!  The Co-Op also had the BEST visit to Santa ever, you went on a ride that was probably only a couple of minutes in total, but seemed long &amp; very exciting to me in those days, with animated characters along the way.

Entering teen years, I regularly used to pass out whenever entering Marks &amp; Spencers for some reason!  I think it was the rush of hot air as soon as you walked in, got to the stage where if my Mum wanted to shop in there, she had to arrange for them to get me a chair so I could sit down somewhere, because if I stood up for too long I&#039;d flake out.

I also remember the Knickerbocker Glorys at Wimpy, and the Seafarer restaurant where we often had fish &amp; chips.  Hated going food shopping with my parents, used to wile away the time by playing with the automatic door in Sainsburys, stepping on the mat to make it open, over and over and over... drove the staff mad!

I remember the bald-headed Hari Krishna guys in their sandals &amp; orange sheets/robes who would sometimes congregate in the open area near Boots. Never understood what they were all about, but they were fascinating to watch when I was a kid.

One of my sisters worked at Shell Mex and BP, another for Commission for the New Towns, and my Dad worked for Sir Allen &amp; Unwin Publishers in Paradise.  I went to Bourne Valley School (which was Hemel&#039;s version of St. Trinians, which pupils dangling others out of upper windows and so on), somehow managed to get out of there alive, just after I left they knocked it down to make a housing estate - probably for the best!  Then I got a job at Abbey Motors, after that BSI in Maylands Avenue where I stayed for many years, and moved to MK with my job when they made their new headquarters there in 1983.

Used to drink at the Queens Head, Lawn Lane or the White Hart, Old Town.  Played on the darts team for the Princes Arms, Boxmoor for a while (which is no longer there).  Remember getting drunk and my mate trying to phone us a cab from a phone box, she put my arms around the pillar outside the Dolly Wash but I kept sliding down, hehe  If we wanted to be really &#039;posh&#039; we would go to the Waggon &amp; Horses near the Co-Op!

Oh, many many memories of growing up in Hemel, we always moaned &quot;There&#039;s nothing to do!!!!!&quot; and it was usually just cinema, pub or home in those days, but now they&#039;ve introduced bowling &amp; other stuff.  

Your comments are all great, thanks for reminding me of things, it&#039;s been a gr8 trip down memory lane!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So glad I stumbled across this site, wonderful memories!  I was brought up in Hemel from 1963-1983, before marrying and moving to Milton Keynes with my job, but my family still live there.</p>
<p>Fond memories of the annual Carnival on August Bank Holiday, waiting along the packed roadside for the procession to pass through and then following it through the gates of Gadebridge Park for all the festivities, including the Red Devils (parachutists) and the fab funfair,where my Dad would treat me to a sneaky cider and then get told off by my Mum because it made me talk endlessly! lol</p>
<p>There was also a lovely open-air public paddling pool, very popular with young &amp; old alike, think it might have closed now (health &amp; safety) and fishing for &#8216;tiddlers&#8217; in the nearby river.</p>
<p>I saw Showaddywaddy at the Pavilion in the 70&#8242;s, also recall the Saturday Morning Pictures, which wasn&#8217;t so much about the films really, as getting to go out with the kids from school and flirt with the boys! haha  Evening films you always got 2 in those days&#8230; a shorter &#8216;rubbishy&#8217; film (tho occasionally you&#8217;d get a good 1) followed by the main film.</p>
<p>Scamps turned into various different names over the years, I remember trying to get in with my b/f under-age, only to find my brother-in-law was a bouncer on the door! Terrified he would tell my Dad, but he just winked, nodded and got us in for free!  On the way out, however, I&#8217;d had a little bit too much to drink, managed to make it down the HUGE flight of stairs to the door, but just as the fresh air hit me, I staggered down the ONE STEP leading outside, &amp; fell flat on my face on the pavement! Heard my b/f whispering thru gritted teeth &#8220;Get up, Get up!&#8221; and moved my head sideways, to see a pair of big black boots &#8211; looking up &#8211; belonging to &#8211; yep, a policeman.  &#8220;Is there a problem?&#8221; he asked.  &#8220;No officer, of course not&#8221; b/f said, &#8220;she just tripped over the step&#8221;.  Hmmm.  How we got away with it, I&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p>When I was a little girl, Mum used to take me shopping, I remember we always ended up at the Co-Op at one end of Marlowes for a cup of tea, we used to sit by the window overlooking the statue of the couple dancing in Waterhouse Gardens.  They were naked, and I always thought it was very rude!  The Co-Op also had the BEST visit to Santa ever, you went on a ride that was probably only a couple of minutes in total, but seemed long &amp; very exciting to me in those days, with animated characters along the way.</p>
<p>Entering teen years, I regularly used to pass out whenever entering Marks &amp; Spencers for some reason!  I think it was the rush of hot air as soon as you walked in, got to the stage where if my Mum wanted to shop in there, she had to arrange for them to get me a chair so I could sit down somewhere, because if I stood up for too long I&#8217;d flake out.</p>
<p>I also remember the Knickerbocker Glorys at Wimpy, and the Seafarer restaurant where we often had fish &amp; chips.  Hated going food shopping with my parents, used to wile away the time by playing with the automatic door in Sainsburys, stepping on the mat to make it open, over and over and over&#8230; drove the staff mad!</p>
<p>I remember the bald-headed Hari Krishna guys in their sandals &amp; orange sheets/robes who would sometimes congregate in the open area near Boots. Never understood what they were all about, but they were fascinating to watch when I was a kid.</p>
<p>One of my sisters worked at Shell Mex and BP, another for Commission for the New Towns, and my Dad worked for Sir Allen &amp; Unwin Publishers in Paradise.  I went to Bourne Valley School (which was Hemel&#8217;s version of St. Trinians, which pupils dangling others out of upper windows and so on), somehow managed to get out of there alive, just after I left they knocked it down to make a housing estate &#8211; probably for the best!  Then I got a job at Abbey Motors, after that BSI in Maylands Avenue where I stayed for many years, and moved to MK with my job when they made their new headquarters there in 1983.</p>
<p>Used to drink at the Queens Head, Lawn Lane or the White Hart, Old Town.  Played on the darts team for the Princes Arms, Boxmoor for a while (which is no longer there).  Remember getting drunk and my mate trying to phone us a cab from a phone box, she put my arms around the pillar outside the Dolly Wash but I kept sliding down, hehe  If we wanted to be really &#8216;posh&#8217; we would go to the Waggon &amp; Horses near the Co-Op!</p>
<p>Oh, many many memories of growing up in Hemel, we always moaned &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing to do!!!!!&#8221; and it was usually just cinema, pub or home in those days, but now they&#8217;ve introduced bowling &amp; other stuff.  </p>
<p>Your comments are all great, thanks for reminding me of things, it&#8217;s been a gr8 trip down memory lane!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories of Hemel Hempstead in the 1970&#8242;s by Robert Dabbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Dabbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born in Adeyfield in 1955 , i played in the old station on midland hlll ,it was closed at the time, My dad and i watched football at crabtree lane,we road our bikes down the duel carige way before it was open. I remember the town but could not recall the names,thank to all of you who filled in the blanks. Have just been back to hemel after moving in 84, bigest shock was the Bell at Apsley is a McDonalds. I met my wife at John Dickensons and we got married at St Marys old town 1980 Kim Weakley.</description>
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