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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3928</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably the same as exporting to CSV from the user interface I would guess.  Anyway, it&#039;s probably easiest to go through CSV, as you say, and use OOo to reorder the columns.

Wish I&#039;d known that when I did the conversion. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably the same as exporting to CSV from the user interface I would guess.  Anyway, it&#8217;s probably easiest to go through CSV, as you say, and use OOo to reorder the columns.</p>
<p>Wish I&#8217;d known that when I did the conversion. <img src='http://cyberelk.net/tim/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chasd</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3927</link>
		<dc:creator>Chasd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Evolution address book export script -

rpm -ql evolution&#124;grep export

It&#039;s in a libexec directory, so it isn&#039;t in a normal $PATH. It doesn&#039;t have a man page, but running it without arguments spits out usage info.

I use it to export the Evo address book data in CSV format, then bring that into OOo to move the columns around so it matches up with the order T-Bird wants. The T-bird CSV import dialog will show you the order. If I remember, there may be columns Evo uses that T-bird doesn&#039;t, or the other way around.

The other advantage to opening the data in OOo allows you to quickly scan the data and prune out cruft.

HTH

Chasd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Evolution address book export script -</p>
<p>rpm -ql evolution|grep export</p>
<p>It&#8217;s in a libexec directory, so it isn&#8217;t in a normal $PATH. It doesn&#8217;t have a man page, but running it without arguments spits out usage info.</p>
<p>I use it to export the Evo address book data in CSV format, then bring that into OOo to move the columns around so it matches up with the order T-Bird wants. The T-bird CSV import dialog will show you the order. If I remember, there may be columns Evo uses that T-bird doesn&#8217;t, or the other way around.</p>
<p>The other advantage to opening the data in OOo allows you to quickly scan the data and prune out cruft.</p>
<p>HTH</p>
<p>Chasd.</p>
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		<title>By: 从 Evolution 迁移到Thunderbird &#171; Charles&#8217; Wordpress Blog</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3914</link>
		<dc:creator>从 Evolution 迁移到Thunderbird &#171; Charles&#8217; Wordpress Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 当然，邮件联系人就没这么简单迁移了，但是，你可以在 Evolution 导出联系人为 vCard 格式，然后使用这个小小的 Perl 脚本 转换成 Thunderbird 的 ldif 格式再倒入就可以了。via [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 当然，邮件联系人就没这么简单迁移了，但是，你可以在 Evolution 导出联系人为 vCard 格式，然后使用这个小小的 Perl 脚本 转换成 Thunderbird 的 ldif 格式再倒入就可以了。via [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3850</link>
		<dc:creator>Bucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try Evolution again with (almost) every new Fedora. It&#039;s the only client that&#039;s ever bothered supporting R/W LDAP addressbooks (and it&#039;s done it for YEARS). Its calendar is pretty slick, too.

I lasted almost 2 months this time out, which is a record.

The things that made me give up...AGAIN:

The thing where you get a notice of an incoming email--you see a big bold (1) in your mailbox, but nothing will appear in your messages list (workaround: quit, do killev, erase ~/.evolution, and re-launch).

The thing where it won&#039;t connect to your mail server for some reason (workaround: delete the account, muck around for AGES deleting key after key after key with gconftool, and re-create the account).

The thing where you&#039;re having a quiet afternoon, and somebody asks you if you&#039;ve read their email, so you quit and re-launch Evolution, and there are a dozen new emails starting from mid-morning to the present.

The thing where somebody sends an email saying, &quot;I&#039;ve highlighted the important items in red&quot; -- which Evolution helpfully converts to black.

So....

I, too, am back using Thunderbird. I have to use a web client and copy and paste to add things to an addressbook (welcome back to the 12th century), but Evolution&#039;s just too unreliable to use for work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try Evolution again with (almost) every new Fedora. It&#8217;s the only client that&#8217;s ever bothered supporting R/W LDAP addressbooks (and it&#8217;s done it for YEARS). Its calendar is pretty slick, too.</p>
<p>I lasted almost 2 months this time out, which is a record.</p>
<p>The things that made me give up&#8230;AGAIN:</p>
<p>The thing where you get a notice of an incoming email&#8211;you see a big bold (1) in your mailbox, but nothing will appear in your messages list (workaround: quit, do killev, erase ~/.evolution, and re-launch).</p>
<p>The thing where it won&#8217;t connect to your mail server for some reason (workaround: delete the account, muck around for AGES deleting key after key after key with gconftool, and re-create the account).</p>
<p>The thing where you&#8217;re having a quiet afternoon, and somebody asks you if you&#8217;ve read their email, so you quit and re-launch Evolution, and there are a dozen new emails starting from mid-morning to the present.</p>
<p>The thing where somebody sends an email saying, &#8220;I&#8217;ve highlighted the important items in red&#8221; &#8212; which Evolution helpfully converts to black.</p>
<p>So&#8230;.</p>
<p>I, too, am back using Thunderbird. I have to use a web client and copy and paste to add things to an addressbook (welcome back to the 12th century), but Evolution&#8217;s just too unreliable to use for work.</p>
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		<title>By: axelilly</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3848</link>
		<dc:creator>axelilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome aboard the Thunder Bird train!  I&#039;ve been using Thunder Bird for my work related email for years and always have been very happy with it.  I find it&#039;s flexibility and message threading to be very powerful and fulfilling.  I think you&#039;ve made a wise move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome aboard the Thunder Bird train!  I&#8217;ve been using Thunder Bird for my work related email for years and always have been very happy with it.  I find it&#8217;s flexibility and message threading to be very powerful and fulfilling.  I think you&#8217;ve made a wise move.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3843</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  It had an option for migrating email from Netscape Communicator 4.x (as if anyone is still using that).

It is a shame they don&#039;t have a common address book format though, but to be fair I&#039;m not sure if Thunderbird ought to be able to import vcard format or whether Evolution ought to export in ldif format -- I&#039;ve no idea which format is best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  It had an option for migrating email from Netscape Communicator 4.x (as if anyone is still using that).</p>
<p>It is a shame they don&#8217;t have a common address book format though, but to be fair I&#8217;m not sure if Thunderbird ought to be able to import vcard format or whether Evolution ought to export in ldif format &#8212; I&#8217;ve no idea which format is best.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamisamanou Burgess</title>
		<link>http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/01/24/switching-mail-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-3842</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamisamanou Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like something Mozilla needs to take a look at improving. If it is difficult to transfer from Open Source app to another, there is a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like something Mozilla needs to take a look at improving. If it is difficult to transfer from Open Source app to another, there is a problem.</p>
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